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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://alexanderchalkidis.com/2010/04/20/tolstoy-and-the-greek-war-of-financial-independence/#comment-9&quot;&gt;james&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right, I got carried away finding a solution within the problematic state of the modern state.  (And attached economy.)  Times of change are a great opportunity to learn about any system.  A bit like destroying an ant nest in order to discover how it works, you only get glimpses of mildly useful information really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://alexanderchalkidis.com/2010/04/20/tolstoy-and-the-greek-war-of-financial-independence/#comment-9">james</a>.</p>
<p>You are right, I got carried away finding a solution within the problematic state of the modern state.  (And attached economy.)  Times of change are a great opportunity to learn about any system.  A bit like destroying an ant nest in order to discover how it works, you only get glimpses of mildly useful information really.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alex, 
A superb synthesis - but all these models still look to economic growth and the ever increasing need to consume to drive the economic health of those involved. That just takes us closer to the real edge, over which we already teater without even knowing it. This is just another oportunity for change that modern society will ignore because it&#039;s driven by the obsession of single-generation self interest that seems as unavoidable a truth as the DNA that drives it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,<br />
A superb synthesis &#8211; but all these models still look to economic growth and the ever increasing need to consume to drive the economic health of those involved. That just takes us closer to the real edge, over which we already teater without even knowing it. This is just another oportunity for change that modern society will ignore because it&#8217;s driven by the obsession of single-generation self interest that seems as unavoidable a truth as the DNA that drives it.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Iceland at least they held a referendum.  (Nice article about this, here http://www.protothema.gr/economy/article/?aid=66638 )  Maybe that would help unite and improve the level of debate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Iceland at least they held a referendum.  (Nice article about this, here <a href="http://www.protothema.gr/economy/article/?aid=66638" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.protothema.gr/economy/article/?aid=66638</a> )  Maybe that would help unite and improve the level of debate.</p>
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		By: Kathy Angelopouou		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alex - thanks for this.

In my super-simple world, things are, well, simple.  In trouble?  Face it.  Deal with it.  If it means a bit of &quot;suffering&quot; (Ha! - in this society I don&#039;t think we have the remotest idea of what that even means...) then so be it.  We won&#039;t die, starve or, yes,even suffer.  We will become mature consumers, better heads of our households and (slightly) better citizens, owing up to our own role in this mess.  Make no mistake, fellow Greeks, our collective hand led us to where we are today AS WELL.   How?  The way I look at it by the way we behaved as consumers (shameful, greedy), by the way we voted (for our own personal good) and by the way we turned away.  From our hospitals, schools, environment.  We will ultimately have to answer to our children.   I don&#039;t know what we will say.  But in the meantime, for the next five years (as you estimate) let&#039;s pull up our socks and simply accept that we may have to &quot;suffer&quot; for a while.

As for the idea of building a united front - maybe, someday.  I just don&#039;t know where to look for another Tolstoy around here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; thanks for this.</p>
<p>In my super-simple world, things are, well, simple.  In trouble?  Face it.  Deal with it.  If it means a bit of &#8220;suffering&#8221; (Ha! &#8211; in this society I don&#8217;t think we have the remotest idea of what that even means&#8230;) then so be it.  We won&#8217;t die, starve or, yes,even suffer.  We will become mature consumers, better heads of our households and (slightly) better citizens, owing up to our own role in this mess.  Make no mistake, fellow Greeks, our collective hand led us to where we are today AS WELL.   How?  The way I look at it by the way we behaved as consumers (shameful, greedy), by the way we voted (for our own personal good) and by the way we turned away.  From our hospitals, schools, environment.  We will ultimately have to answer to our children.   I don&#8217;t know what we will say.  But in the meantime, for the next five years (as you estimate) let&#8217;s pull up our socks and simply accept that we may have to &#8220;suffer&#8221; for a while.</p>
<p>As for the idea of building a united front &#8211; maybe, someday.  I just don&#8217;t know where to look for another Tolstoy around here.</p>
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